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我看那些搞木工桌的人多是无理取闹

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发表于 2019-10-22 03:46:54 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
感觉分歧有时是话赶话了,老师傅最初说,有些人盲目追求木工桌制作过程,好好的板子平铺使用即省事,又耐用,非要切成一条条拼板。而且是已经不会变型的五十年老料。又有木友从科学的角度讲了,散,可承载变型。(学习了,刚知道从整到锯散再粘接可以抗变型)至于木凳与木工桌,我觉得事实可以证明两者是并存的,你有了木工桌,也会因为方便使用一下,可以随手搬来木凳。
发表于 2019-10-22 12:12:25 | 显示全部楼层
我的木工桌拿不出手,但是使用还好
发表于 2019-10-22 21:43:00 | 显示全部楼层
西式木工桌有没有实用性这个不需要辩了。我想说的是花旗松做木工桌非常合适。
 楼主| 发表于 2019-10-23 01:23:46 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
MOTOG 发表于 2019-10-22 21:43
( }/ P# G8 J8 a3 Y1 D5 @4 z西式木工桌有没有实用性这个不需要辩了。我想说的是花旗松做木工桌非常合适。

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发表于 2019-10-23 09:03:23 | 显示全部楼层
都是崇洋媚外搞的,做木工桌的真正给自己做家具的极少,就是跟风,觉得这样洋气
发表于 2019-10-23 09:05:51 | 显示全部楼层
Melodylee 发表于 2019-10-19 23:12
& G0 `1 q3 Y3 ~这个国家就是像你这样爱自主发明的人多.期待你设计出我们喜欢又便宜的好桌子来哈.目前还是觉得那木工桌不错 ...

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发表于 2019-10-23 09:19:47 | 显示全部楼层
首先咱们这么想,现在的家具普遍都是些板式家具,用实木的少,用实木的都是追求装逼和与众不同的,至于环保不环保纯属扯淡,环保用石头的,木头都是树砍之后才有的,至于甲醛之类的根式扯淡了,拼木头几个不用胶的?用胶的那个没甲醛?其次咱们再说这个木工桌,既然已经开始追求精神上的升华了,木工桌没点逼格还咋装逼?咋与众不同?我就用榉木,因为榉木才正宗才正统,经过实际验证过这个材料确实好用。人有四大追求,木工桌就属于精神追求,至于板凳不板凳的,想干活哪里干不了?没条件水泥地上也能干。
发表于 2019-10-23 13:47:29 | 显示全部楼层
玩玩木工,配个好桌子无可厚非吧,没必要上纲上线!还崇洋媚外了,你开个比亚迪,人家有钱开宝马、奔驰就是装逼了。
发表于 2019-10-24 00:31:05 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 老锉子 于 2019-10-24 00:34 编辑
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WORKBENCH(P47)
! @' P! x. D4 h) ?' g% KThe workbench is the corner stone of the woodshop, with a history almost as old as woodworking itself. examples of primitive workbenes have been found dating back more than 2,000 years. woodworkers in ancient Rome advanced the basic design, devising benches with simple stops that allowed them to secure pieces of wood. Until that time, craftsmen were forced to hold their work, cutting or shaping it with one hand while chopping or planing with the other. Further improvements came slowly, however, and vises were only added centuries later.
# m; ]$ }8 y+ [$ u: b' ~, jWith each refinemen the workbench has assumed an increasingly indispensable role in the workshop. It is little surprise that many call the workbench the mast important tool a woodworker can own.1 Z8 B6 \; }6 x3 ?
A good workbench does not take an active role in the woodworking process---it does not cut wood or shape it---but the bench and its accoutrements perform another essential task:They free tour hands and position the work so you can cut,drill,shape,and finish efficiently.In the past, even the mostused benches have fallen short of the ideal.with its massive,single-plank top, the Roubo bench of the 18th century was popular throughout Europe,yet it had no tail vise or bench dogs to hold a workpiece; instead, the task was done by a system of iron holdfasts and an optional leg vise.one hundered years later, the American shakers improved on the Roubo.Their bench was a large affair that sported a laminated top,a system of bench dog holes,an L-shaped tail vise.The Shaker bench was not too different from the modern cabonetmaker’s bench pictured on page 46., P- ~2 f% m$ L+ t
The design of the workbench has changed little since the early 19th century; only its accessories and manner of assembly have been altered. In fact, some claim that the only true innovation has been inventor Ron Hickman’s ubiquitous workmate(TM).Developed in the 1960s, the workmate(TM) revolutionized the way many people look at work surfaces,because it provided some of the clamping abilities of standard workbench with a collapsible,portable design.
, d6 @7 y2 X# {2 }; l  Although the workmate(TM) has found a niche in workshops around the world,many woodworkers---both amateur and professional---still opt for nothing less than a solid maple orbeech bench. often they choose to build their own,believing that the care and attention paid in chaper that follows shows how to assemble a modern cabinetmaker’s workbench,and how to install the vises and accessories needed to turn an ordinary bench into a more flexible work station.
4 D6 ?1 f( P  G" zThe design of the workbench shown on the following pages,and many of the drawings and techniques,are based on a plan that appeared in woodsmith magazine.
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2 F/ N( p" x' O8 H5 V; ^, z时间太忙,没翻完,workbench这个词好像是在法国出现的,早期叫 Roubobench,没细查,太多专词,这段原文来自木工制作杂志,美国的一个木工专门杂志。 : ~- N0 \. v6 r+ z6 f4 C; E) a
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木工台是木工房的基础,历史几乎和木工一样古老。已经发现的原始木工台可以追溯到2000多年前。古罗马的木匠设计了简单可靠的方法来保证加工木头的安全,在那时,木匠们学会了利用工作台来腾出一只手,来协助切割或刨平工作。进一步的改进非常缓慢,而台虎钳的增加则在几个世纪之后出现。
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发表于 2019-10-24 03:00:27 | 显示全部楼层
楼主是想说木工桌华而不实,反倒说了一大堆好处。说木工桌无理取闹。这个锅木工桌肯定不背。中国乡村木工都是木工凳打天下。临时用用就是一块长坂钉四根腿完事。其实中国也不是没有木工桌,以木也为生计的木工作坊就有,不过不叫木工桌,叫木工案子。其实就是木工櫈加高加宽而已,也有储物空间。功能上和欧美木工桌的区别就是缺少边钳腿钳尾钳,咱得承认落后。不过,死了张屠户不吃混毛猪,斧锯刨凿全武行,一样拿下。后来金工的老虎钳也受木工青睐,加台前的不在少数(简单),不是木作需要,就为了加工金属件敲敲打打锯锉磨方便。现在木友高大上的木工桌,满足一个心态,欣赏价值大于使用价值,因为不是谋生的工具。
发表于 2019-10-24 08:47:23 | 显示全部楼层
临轩听雨 发表于 2019-10-24 03:00/ ~0 L7 _& T! P3 z' l7 ^0 ~4 I
楼主是想说木工桌华而不实,反倒说了一大堆好处。说木工桌无理取闹。这个锅木工桌肯定不背。中国乡村木工都 ...

: Z! r% g( ~9 G7 t8 N: \首先要搞清楚那个先进,第二需不需要,第三有没有条件。如果这都没有搞清楚说什么崇洋媚外。不要不思进取鼠无寸光。
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发表于 2019-10-24 09:42:08 | 显示全部楼层
动不动就崇洋媚外 这些人该有多玻璃心啊
发表于 2019-10-24 10:34:40 | 显示全部楼层
路过学习,受益良多,拜拜山头,捡点刨花。我坚持土法上马搞工程,尽量不买或少买工具,可是不得不承认对头的工具对于弥补我技术的不足很有补益。
发表于 2019-10-24 12:27:44 | 显示全部楼层
不懂别乱说,整板破开再拼是防止变形(翘曲),木工桌不是你眼中的只能放点工具。"谁无理取闹,你无理取闹“( k  `% _3 L% N1 g# n2 R0 J
 楼主| 发表于 2019-10-24 13:08:10 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
601119582 发表于 2019-10-24 12:27
: w$ o  `* a( x1 k1 t# Y不懂别乱说,整板破开再拼是防止变形(翘曲),木工桌不是你眼中的只能放点工具。"谁无理取闹,你无理取闹“
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可笑,那么你做板凳怎么不把木头拉开再拼起来?为什么不用三合板?三合板就不变形了?
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